Descent from the Doges of Venice

Coat of Arms of Doge Sebastian Ziani
1172-1178 Sebastiani Ziani was Doge of Venice
1205-1229 Pietro Ziani was Doge of Venice
It has been family lore for many generations that we are descended from the Doges of Venice
See Giovanni Battista's letter of 1851
in which he talks of being descended from The Doges of Venice
Much research has been done to try to verify it with no luck
The family where definitely in Bologna as far back as 1697.
Before that they were in Florence as far back as 1010 - well before the time of The Ziani Doges in Florence (1172-1229)
Giovanni Battista claimed descent (in 1851) as mentioned above.
His son Marco Aurelio probably believed his father's story
His grandson Cesar believed the story so much that he changed his name from Zani to Ziani
His other grandson Georges (whose descendants went to The New World) did not change his name
The first evidence that the name had been changed was in 1875 when young Sebastian (age 11) signed his name in a letter as Ziani. Then in 1876 his mother also refers to him as Ziani.
However in 1881, when Cesar and Julian got married to each other for a second time, Cesar called himself Zani
When Sebastian married Gertrude in 1888 he called himself Ziani
Cesar also changed his name eventually, as evidenced by his death certificate of 1903.
Sebastian hired a Venetian researcher called Negri. He made 2 reports in 1903.
He carefully did not say that there was a direct family link to The Doges of Venice.
In June 1903 he said
"Although this branch of the Zani family came from Tuscany (Florence) the celebrated writer Abbot Gamurrini, who is recognised as the most authoritative writer on this question, states that this is no reason for doubting that the first descendance was from the Illustrious Venetian family
He repeated - what had been written before by well known researchers -
That - the Zani family of Bologna shared heritage with the Zani family of Venice
There is no mention of Doges and he uses the name Zani.
I believe that over the years, knowledge that the Zani family of Bologna shared ancestry/heritage with the Zani family of Venice, become exaggerated and confused (as so often happens), to become the story that Giovanni Battista told his son in 1855
Below shows part of what Negri wrote
1205-1229 Pietro Ziani was Doge of Venice
It has been family lore for many generations that we are descended from the Doges of Venice
See Giovanni Battista's letter of 1851
in which he talks of being descended from The Doges of Venice
Much research has been done to try to verify it with no luck
The family where definitely in Bologna as far back as 1697.
Before that they were in Florence as far back as 1010 - well before the time of The Ziani Doges in Florence (1172-1229)
Giovanni Battista claimed descent (in 1851) as mentioned above.
His son Marco Aurelio probably believed his father's story
His grandson Cesar believed the story so much that he changed his name from Zani to Ziani
His other grandson Georges (whose descendants went to The New World) did not change his name
The first evidence that the name had been changed was in 1875 when young Sebastian (age 11) signed his name in a letter as Ziani. Then in 1876 his mother also refers to him as Ziani.
However in 1881, when Cesar and Julian got married to each other for a second time, Cesar called himself Zani
When Sebastian married Gertrude in 1888 he called himself Ziani
Cesar also changed his name eventually, as evidenced by his death certificate of 1903.
Sebastian hired a Venetian researcher called Negri. He made 2 reports in 1903.
He carefully did not say that there was a direct family link to The Doges of Venice.
In June 1903 he said
"Although this branch of the Zani family came from Tuscany (Florence) the celebrated writer Abbot Gamurrini, who is recognised as the most authoritative writer on this question, states that this is no reason for doubting that the first descendance was from the Illustrious Venetian family
He repeated - what had been written before by well known researchers -
That - the Zani family of Bologna shared heritage with the Zani family of Venice
There is no mention of Doges and he uses the name Zani.
I believe that over the years, knowledge that the Zani family of Bologna shared ancestry/heritage with the Zani family of Venice, become exaggerated and confused (as so often happens), to become the story that Giovanni Battista told his son in 1855
Below shows part of what Negri wrote
The below is in the archive
